me. >> you think ramsey clark was paying the demonstratodemonstra >> ramsey clark and his rent a mob. i've run into this in new york and philadelphia, everywhere i've worked. people are coming together, americans are coming together on this central issue. the central issue of america and where america is going. there's a great fear out there that our country deserves much better than being dismantled only to be rebuilt as a failed socialist paradise. we're watching the -- >> you really believe that president obama wants to make this into a socialist paradise? >> the government owns the automobile industry. the government owns the banking industry. the government is about to own the health care industry. yes, i'm afraid that we have -- i don't know what his personal thoughts are on this but all the actions i see are moving in that direction. i would add this, anderson. if this is such an imperative to pass this, why hasn't it been passed? the votes are there on the democrat side or supposedly the numbers in the house and senate, the democrats have all the votes they need to pass this